Nottingham Forest are expected to reject Vasco da Gama’s opening offer for Cuiabano. However, they’re apparently willing to negotiate a permanent sale.

The Brazilian club have offered around €7m (£6.1m) for the left-back, whose loan expires in December. That’s €3m (£2.6m) below the agreed purchase option.

Forest aren’t convinced by the figure, but there’s a catch. They reportedly know getting the full €10m (£8.7m) from Vasco will be difficult, and no other club has made an offer.

Meanwhile, the Brazilians have another idea. They want to use the talks over Cuiabano to try to sign a second Forest player.

Nottingham Forest want more for Cuiabano

The full story here, according to Brazilian outlet RTI Esporte, is that Nottingham Forest have yet to formally respond to Vasco’s proposal. However, the expectation is that they’ll turn it down.

The Premier League club would prefer to start negotiations from the €10m (£8.7m) figure written into the loan agreement. They’re prepared to discuss a lower amount, provided the final deal makes sense financially. That leaves some room for bargaining.

Forest reportedly don’t intend to use Cuiabano when he returns in January. He’s on their list of players available for transfer, and another loan to Vasco isn’t part of the plan.

The 23-year-old, who has a contract until June 2029, would therefore need to leave permanently to continue playing in Rio de Janeiro.

The Brazilian outlet adds that Forest’s difficult Premier League campaign could influence their transfer plans. They expect the club to make selective additions in January and look to generate money through player sales.

Vasco, for their part, remain confident of getting a deal done. They believe further negotiations could bring the price down.

Vasco also want John Victor – Double deal on the cards?

Cuiabano might not be the only player involved in those conversations. According to information from Brazilian journalists close to the club, Vasco’s board want to use the Cuiabano negotiations. They hope to explore a move for goalkeeper John Victor.

The former Botafogo player has lost ground at Nottingham Forest. Vasco see an opportunity to bring him back to Brazilian football. We’ve already covered their interest last week.

The idea is to take advantage of the discussions already taking place between the clubs and see whether both transfers can be arranged ahead of 2027.

There is one difference between the reports, though. While RTI have put Vasco’s Cuiabano offer at around €7m (£6.1m), this information suggests the club are trying to bring the price down to €6m (£5.2m).

For now, the €7m (£6.1m) figure has stronger backing, and there’s no indication Forest have agreed to either amount.

A double deal would certainly be convenient for the Brazilians. Whether Marinakis are willing to play along is another matter.